{"id":490,"date":"2023-08-01T09:59:24","date_gmt":"2023-08-01T13:59:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/?p=490"},"modified":"2023-08-01T09:59:27","modified_gmt":"2023-08-01T13:59:27","slug":"vanished-streets-and-thoroughfares-published-feb-8-1885","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/vanished-streets-and-thoroughfares-published-feb-8-1885\/","title":{"rendered":"Vanished Streets and Thoroughfares [published Feb. 8, 1885]"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/lispenardmeadows.jpg?resize=292%2C180&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-491\" width=\"292\" height=\"180\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/lispenardmeadows.jpg?w=609&amp;ssl=1 609w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/lispenardmeadows.jpg?resize=300%2C185&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 292px) 100vw, 292px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Lispenard Meadows<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The proposed openin\u2019 of a continuous street from Lafayette place to the Brooklyn Bridge suggests naturally the big times that have been made over the openin\u2019s of new streets and thoroughfares in the past.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; There was a time, in the history of New York, when the Bowery was more of a street\u2013a more important avenue\u2013than Broadway itself. In fact, it was at the one time seriously proposed to unite the Bowery and Broadway by extendin\u2019 Broadway into the Bowery, makin\u2019 the former thoroughfare take a bend, a turn, right into the latter and end there, so as to make Broadway really a feeder to or a branch of the Bowery. Of course, as we all can see for ourselves now, this idea came to nothin\u2019. Of course as we all can argue now, the very idea of joining the two great thoroughfares was absurd. But nevertheless for many years this grand combination scheme, this Broadway-Bowery combination, was generally discussed by a good many serious and sensible people.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 In early times a road called the Sand Hill road extended from the Bowery across in the direction of what is now Broadway, runnin\u2019 through Washington Square and adjacent localities, like Waverly place, etc. This Sand Hill road began at about Sixth street and the Bowery now and cut across. After a while, enterprisin\u2019 people began to talk of buildin\u2019 along this Sand Hill road and improvin\u2019 it. And then, later on, it was proposed to lay the whole section lyin\u2019 along this road into streets and buildin\u2019 lots. A good deal of fuss was made over this idea. It was hooted at almost, as wildly absurdly chimerical; the papers made fun of the projectors of the scheme. It seemed a good deal wilder waste of money than the million or so sunk in improvin\u2019 the desolate sands of Coney Island. But the men who had taken up this idea of gettin\u2019 rid of that \u201cold landmark,\u201d \u201cthe Sand Hill road,\u201d and putin\u2019 regular streets in its place, were not to be laughed out of their ideas\u2013not to be dissuaded from it by newspaper articles. They had \u201cthe courage of their convictions.\u201d They were not at all influenced by a lot of rubbish that was then talked and published about \u201cremovin\u2019 the old landmark,\u201d but they agitated the matter till at last the city fathers passed the necessary ordinances, and the old Sand Hill road was blotted out forever.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/lenapetrails.jpg?resize=323%2C406&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-492\" width=\"323\" height=\"406\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/lenapetrails.jpg?w=602&amp;ssl=1 602w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/lenapetrails.jpg?resize=239%2C300&amp;ssl=1 239w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 323px) 100vw, 323px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Sand Hill Road likely followed the red trail between Kintecoying and Sapohannikan Village<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The openin\u2019 of Sixth street at the terminus of this old Sand Hill road was regarded as a \u201cpublic outrage\u201d by many, and influential citizens protested against it just as influential citizens protest protested against the surrenderin\u2019 of the streets to the L roads, but manifest destiny and the city authorities were against the influential protester protesters, and Sixth street was opened and marked the dawn of a new era of City progress.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The openin\u2019 of Beekman street from Pearl to Water street marked another era of local Improvement. This openin\u2019 at the time was looked upon as one of the great events of the age. Buildin\u2019s were torn down to permit this openin\u2019 and their sacrifice was looked upon by some as a piece of wanton barbarity, but by most as signs of a wise liberality. The openin\u2019 itself was one of the political issues of the time; now it has been long entirely forgotten.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The opening of Spring street under its present name and in its present shape was still another epoch of improvement. What was afterwards called Spring street was originally called Bannon Street, and as such is known in the earlier records and documents. The name of Spring street was unknown till a comparatively recent period. The name Bannon street was derived from a man named Bannon who kept a big \u201cgarden,\u201d in its time the biggest in the city, on the line of the street. Bannon&#8217;s Garden had plenty of ground and several neat buildin\u2019s erected on \u2018em. It presented a truly rural appearance and was quite a fashionable resort for ladies and gentlemen in the summertime. In the dog days, or the dog nights rather, the wealthy New Yorker used to take his girl to Bannon\u2019s just as the same party takes his girl now to Long Branch or Long Beach for an excursion. This Bannon&#8217;s Garden was about all there was to the present Spring street, just as a block or two of \u201cSugar-loaf Hill\u201d was all there then was of the present Franklin street.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; One of the projects which were talked&nbsp; and written about a good deal in their time, but resulted in nothin\u2019, was the havin\u2019 a big public square like Tompkins Square, or Washington Square, at the junction of Eighth street and Broadway, takin\u2019 in the present Clinton place, Astor place and Lafayette place. This was certainly a fine location for a public park, though rather too close perhaps between the Washington and Tompkins Squares.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; But the project which caused the most fuss in its time, met with the most opposition, and yet which accomplished the greatest amount of good for the City of New York, was the proposition for drainin\u2019 the Lispenard meadow, which at one time occupied the present heart of the metropolis, fillin\u2019 the space now occupied by the Eighth Ward. When it was proposed to drain these meadows and reclaim this land, property owners made a fuss. \u201cLet the meadows be a swamp, what mattered it anyway?\u201d they said. New York is big enough and the taxes are high enough, and so why not let well enough alone.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It seems hardly credible that at one period almost the whole Eighth Ward of this great city was under water, but it seems less credible than a proposition to drain this water off, should have been met with opposition\u2013opposition, too, not from fools, or the rabble, but from hard-headed, hard-workin\u2019 property owners, men who might well be supposed to understand alike their own interests and those of the city they live in. But such were the facts. And in this respect history is constantly repeatin\u2019 itself, for since the drainin\u2019 of the Lispenard meadows to the present time, there has hardly been an \u201cimprovement\u201d of any kind agitated but has been opposed on all sorts of grounds by that clan of conservative property-holders who are opposed to spendin\u2019 any money on improvements of which they do not receive the direct and immediate benefit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"393\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/lispenardmeadows2.jpg?resize=640%2C393&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-493\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/lispenardmeadows2.jpg?w=691&amp;ssl=1 691w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/lispenardmeadows2.jpg?resize=300%2C184&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But even this class of curmudgeons often have shared in the blessin\u2019s which they did all they could to deprive \u2018emselves and other people of. A man called Erwindt, a Dutchman, had a piece of ground near these Lispenard meadows which he paid twenty dollars for, and which he thought dear at that. He fought long and hard against any \u201cimprovements\u201d in the neighborhood of his land which involved any outlay on his part. He called and really considered the drainage of the Lispenard meadows \u201can outrage,\u201d and yet his great-grandson the other day sold these twenty dollar lots for over $15,000, nearly a thousand times more than their original cost, and it was this very drainin\u2019 of these old Lispenard meadows which formed the first step in the improvements which have brought about this stupendous rise in prices. Verily, the history of real estate in Gotham is very curious and instructive.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[Editor&#8217;s notes: The Native American origins of Sand Hill Road was described in <a href=\"https:\/\/catalog.hathitrust.org\/Record\/009603481\">Reginald Bolton&#8217;s <em>Indian Paths in the Great Metropolis<\/em><\/a>, 1922. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A comprehensive article on Lispenard Meadow&#8217;s can be found on Sergey Kadinsky&#8217;s Hidden Waters Blog, &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/hiddenwatersblog.wordpress.com\/2017\/02\/01\/lispen1\/\">Lispenard Meadow, Manhattan<\/a>.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The proposed openin\u2019 of a continuous street from Lafayette<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"nf_dc_page":"","_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[43,74,9,75],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-490","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-landmarks","category-native-americans","category-neighborhoods","category-streets"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.7 - 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