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Mabeth’s <\/em>Macduff<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

      Goin\u2019 along Lispenard street, the other day, I passed the site of old John Ireland’s tavern, which a generation ago was a favorite resort for theatrical people. The head man, the kingpin of the set who congregated here, was J. R. Scott, who did the most talkin\u2019, the hardest drinkin\u2019, and the least payin\u2019 of any of the set. Scott was at one time almost as popular as [Edwin] Forrest, and in fact he is said to have been the only man whom Forrest ever feared as likely to become a rival. But he drank up all his greatness.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

      One night Scott came into Ireland’s place, about eleven o\u2019clock, while the room was full, and he seemed himself almost as \u201cfull\u201d as the room. But this particular night he was \u201cflush\u201d of money, as well as of whiskey, and displayed, with a tremendous air of importance, a big roll of bank bills. You can imagine the sensation that would be produced among a lot of actors by another actor with a lot of bills, and of course everybody wanted to know where it came from.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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John R. Scott<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

      \u201cGuess,\u201d said Scott, \u201cand whoever guesses right in ten guesses shall have ten dollars.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

      Well one guessed \u201cfaro bank,\u201d one guessed \u201clottery,\u201d a third guessed \u201clegacy,\u201d one even suggested \u201chighway robbery,\u201d but in the whole ten guesses no one was right.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

      \u201cWell, who the devil did give you your money, then?\u201d asked somebody.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

      \u201cEdwin Forrest,\u201d answered Scott.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

      \u201cWhat? Forrest gave you money?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

      \u201cYes, and a lecture besides,\u201d said Scott. \u201cYou would have thought, to have heard him, he was my father, and a minister of the gospel, all but for the swearin\u2019. He berated me for my drinkin\u2019, and told me I was the biggest fool in Christendom, and I sometimes think I am. And then he told me to reform.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

      \u201cI told him I never could reform in this country, I knew too many of \u2018the boys.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

      \u201c\u2018Then go to some other country,\u2019 he said. \u2018Go to London.\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n

      \u201c\u2018You might as well tell me to go to heaven, or the other place,\u2019 I said. \u2018How the deuce can I go anywhere without any money?\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n

      \u201cI said this just to show him how absurd he was talkin\u2019, without dreamin\u2019 of what was comin\u2019. But the moment I had said it, he out with his big wallet and handed me these bills, and when I tried to thank him, he growled out, \u201cD\u2013n it, Scott, stop your thankin\u2019, and stop your drinkin\u2019, and you’ll be all right. Go to London or you’ll go to the devil,\u2019 and he stalked off. And I’m off to London in the next packet. Let’s have a good time of it to-night, boys, as my farewell to America. After to-night no more liquor or New York for me.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

      The \u201cboys\u201d accepted this characteristic invitation, and there was hard drinkin\u2019 for an hour or two. As for Scott, he got almost wild, and walked the streets all night, after the tavern closed, to get decently sober enough in the mornin\u2019 to prepare for his departure.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

      The news of Forrest\u2019s generosity to Scott soon got noised abroad among the actors, and was looked at differently by different people. Those friendly to Forrest praised it as a noble instance of liberality, but others said it was merely a shrewd stroke of policy to get a possible rival out of the way.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

      Well, Scott started off for London sober, and reachin\u2019 there remained sober for some time. He got a chance to appear at the high-toned Princess Theatre, under Maddox, in \u201cSir Giles Overreach,\u201d and made a big hit; gettin\u2019 the highest kind of praise from the papers, copies of what he sent over to Forrest. But on the fourth night Scott got drunk once more, spoiled the play, and got discharged. Then he got worse drunk than ever and didn’t draw a sober breath for weeks. Taperin\u2019 up a little he appeared at a fourth-rate theatre in the suburbs and made another hit there. Then he went on another drunk and was once more dismissed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Scott as Ingomar<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

      Finally, played out in London, he returned to America and soon was lookin\u2019 round his favorite haunts\u2013among \u2018em, Ireland’s tavern. The boys generally were glad to see him again, and had made up their minds in advance that when they did see him they would see him drunk, as usual. So they were neither surprised or disappointed; but Forrest, when he heard of Scott’s return to New York, was both. He swore like a trooper.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

      Scott was afraid to meet Forrest, after havin\u2019 thus gone back on his promises and his liberality to him, and kept out of the great tragedian\u2019s way as long as he could, dodgin\u2019 him on the street.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

      But at lasts the two men were brought face to face at a rehearsal of \u201cMacbeth\u201d at the old Bowery Theatre. Everybody about the theatre expected there would be a scene then, but there wasn’t.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

      Forrest strode in and on without sayin\u2019 a word to Scott, or noticin\u2019 him in any way, and during the rehearsal never spoke to him, or looked at him, save when the business of the part required it. And right after rehearsal Forrest left the theatre.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

      The night came, and Scott, who was to be the Macduff, determined to do his best, so as to propitiate Forrest. So he threw his whole soul into the part, givin\u2019 a splendid performance. He never in all his life played better, and he never received so much applause. But the more applause he received the more Forrest glowered at him. It seemed as if he was growin\u2019 jealous or envious of him. So Scott himself began to think, and so did his friends, but it wasn’t that sort of feelin\u2019 at all, as was proved right after the performance. For then Forrest, in the presence of half a dozen or more of the actors and actresses, stalked up to Scott with his Metamora stride, and puttin\u2019 his hand on his shoulders heavily, cursed him. Yes, cursed him emphatically, but not on his, Forrest\u2019s account, but on his, Scott’s own.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

      \u201cD\u2013n you!\u201d cried the great tragedian to the man who might have been as great, \u201cyou would have captured those cursed Britishers if you had only acted as you have to-night, and have kept from drink. But you have made a d\u2013n fool of yourself, sir, and you have lied to me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Edwin Forrest<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

      \u201cYes, lied, sir; lied!\u201d and he roared out the word, as only he could roar it, while Scott cowered before his wrath. Then changin\u2019 his tone and manner to that of the most witherin\u2019 scorn, Forrest continued, \u201cYou cursed numbskull\u2013couldn’t you keep your thick head clear? You have lost the finest chance of your life\u2013you\u2013you ineffable blockhead!\u201d And the way he said those last two words were worth the price of admission to a whole performance. Scott seemed fairly to wilt and to grow small, while the actors present at this unexpected scene upon the stage, when the curtain was down, never even moved\u2013they were held so spellbound.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

      And then, changin\u2019 from scorn to command, Forrest concluded as follows: \u201cNever speak to me again, sir, neither in the house, the street, or the theatre. Never in this world. Never, never!\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

      Then he strode off, mutterin\u2019, as he went, the one word, \u201cFool! Fool! Fool!\u201d but with those three different tones which he of all men knew how to impart to the same word. The first \u201cfool\u201d was uttered in a roar of rage, the second in a hiss of scorn, but the third and last had in it the ring of genuine sorrow. It was the last word ever uttered by Edwin Forrest to J. R. Scott. They never spoke again.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[Editor’s note: There’s little to add to this great anecdote, more illustrative of Forrest’s love for the craft of acting than of a clash of egos.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

John Ireland’s tavern was better known as the Star Hotel, a respectable “free and easy” chop and ale tavern with boarding rooms. It is also famous for being the site where the fraternal organization, the Benevolent and Protective Order of Elks, was founded.]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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