{"id":1343,"date":"2023-12-24T11:22:30","date_gmt":"2023-12-24T16:22:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/?p=1343"},"modified":"2023-12-24T11:22:33","modified_gmt":"2023-12-24T16:22:33","slug":"thackeray-at-the-roosevelt-mansion-published-apr-8-1883","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/thackeray-at-the-roosevelt-mansion-published-apr-8-1883\/","title":{"rendered":"Thackeray at the Roosevelt Mansion [published Apr. 8, 1883]"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"592\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/nypl.digitalcollections.a20151f8-d3c7-5c25-e040-e00a18066189.001.w.jpg?resize=640%2C592&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1344\" style=\"width:154px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/nypl.digitalcollections.a20151f8-d3c7-5c25-e040-e00a18066189.001.w.jpg?w=760&amp;ssl=1 760w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/nypl.digitalcollections.a20151f8-d3c7-5c25-e040-e00a18066189.001.w.jpg?resize=300%2C278&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Roosevelt Mansion, Broadway<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Passin\u2019 along what might be called the middle of Broadway, around Union Square, I was reminded of the changes in that locality, and particularly the complete wipin\u2019 out of that old landmark, Judge Roosevelt&#8217;s house.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This not at all handsome, but solid and domestic-lookin\u2019 pile of brick and mortar, was one of the social centres of old New York. Old Judge Roosevelt himself was a rather close-fisted individual, and not to any great degree public-spirited in anythin\u2019. But he was a gentleman, and his wife was a lady by birth, position and character\u2013one of the ladies of the old school, which the new school might do well to imitate. She was connected with the English aristocracy\u2013pretty closely, too, her sister bein\u2019 Lady Ouseley\u2013and her father had been at one time the American Minister to Spain, and had been very popular there. So she had always plenty of Englishmen and foreigners visitin\u2019 at her house.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"610\" height=\"905\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/James_I._Roosevelt.jpg?resize=610%2C905&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1348\" style=\"width:240px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/James_I._Roosevelt.jpg?w=610&amp;ssl=1 610w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/James_I._Roosevelt.jpg?resize=202%2C300&amp;ssl=1 202w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 610px) 100vw, 610px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">James I. Roosevelt<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; At one of her receptions there were over two hundred people, of whom over sixty were English, Scotch or Irish\u2013English chiefly; over one hundred were Spanish, Portuguese, French or German, and less than forty were Americans; and of these only about one-half lived in America, the rest generally residin\u2019 abroad. And this was about a fair sample of the company she kept\u2013a sort of foreign headquarters.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Mrs. Roosevelt\u2013or Lady Roosevelt, as some of her friends called her\u2013was not a very good-lookin\u2019 woman, but very winnin\u2019 in her manners as well as very dignified. Her family, too, were all, like herself, not a bit good-lookin\u2019, but amiable and solid.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"250\" height=\"337\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/roosevelt_cornelia_van_ness.jpg?resize=250%2C337&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1347\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/roosevelt_cornelia_van_ness.jpg?w=250&amp;ssl=1 250w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/roosevelt_cornelia_van_ness.jpg?resize=223%2C300&amp;ssl=1 223w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 250px) 100vw, 250px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Cornelia Van Ness Roosevelt<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Among the Englishmen who visited a good deal at the Roosevelt mansion while he was in New York was the great English novelist and satirist Thackeray Thackeray liked a \u201csoft thing,\u201d and findin\u2019 that the Roosevelts kept open house, set a fine table and had excellent wines, he made himself at once \u201ca friend of the family\u201d and used to live there.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 At one of the Roosevelt receptions somebody asked Thackeray if he intended to write a book about the Americans. \u201cDear me, no,\u201d said Thackeray, \u201ccertainly not. I like the Americans too much to write about \u2018em.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"388\" height=\"473\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Thackeray_William_M.jpg?resize=388%2C473&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1346\" style=\"width:186px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Thackeray_William_M.jpg?w=388&amp;ssl=1 388w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Thackeray_William_M.jpg?resize=246%2C300&amp;ssl=1 246w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 388px) 100vw, 388px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">William Makepeace Thackeray<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; This sounded funny, but as he afterwards explained it, it was all right. Thackeray meant if he wrote a book about \u2018em he would have to tell, among other things, some unpleasant truths, which, as they had treated him nicely, and were on the whole a nice people, he didn&#8217;t want to do. It was kindly meant and was really a better style of thing than makin\u2019 the most of a people&#8217;s hospitality, then goin\u2019 away and blackguardin\u2019 \u2018em and then eatin\u2019 your own words afterwards. Of the two great authors, Thackeray acted towards New York better than Dickens, although New York treated Dickens far better than it did Thackeray.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thackeray was mighty fond, just like Dickens, of good eatin\u2019 and drinkin\u2019, and his friends gave him several dinners at Delmonico&#8217;s, then on Fourteenth street. He ate and drank heartily, and his friends paid the bills. Nobody thought anythin\u2019 about it, and Thackeray looked upon the dinners just as little compliments which didn&#8217;t cost much, and which were to be chiefly valued for the sake of the good feelin\u2019 they showed. But the time came when he changed his opinions materially on these points. He gave a little return dinner one evenin\u2019 to four gentlemen who had each given him a dinner, and when he came to pay his little bill for the little dinner, then, and not till then, did the great satirist thoroughly appreciate how kind his four friends had been to him, and how much their kindness had cost \u2018em.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thackeray&#8217;s bill for his little Delmonico&#8217;s dinner of five was over one hundred dollars, and then from seein\u2019 what he had to pay himself he saw clearly and forcibly what his four friends had had to pay apiece for him.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \u201cGracious heavens!\u201d he exclaimed. \u201cI had no idea of the expense to which I was puttin\u2019 my friends.\u201d And for once he did feel like sittin\u2019 down and writin\u2019 a book on American restaurants.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Thackeray once said that \u201cthe greatest institution in America was oysters,\u201d and he was devoted to this institution all the time he was in New York. The very first day he was here he went all the way down to Fulton Market and ate\u2013ate\u2013ate\u2013and the very last thing he did before leavin\u2019 was to hurry down to Dorlan&#8217;s and get a plate of fried.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"631\" height=\"470\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/fultonmarketoysters.jpg?resize=631%2C470&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1345\" style=\"width:371px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/fultonmarketoysters.jpg?w=631&amp;ssl=1 631w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jerrykuntz.org\/harryhill\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/fultonmarketoysters.jpg?resize=300%2C223&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 631px) 100vw, 631px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Oyster stall at Fulton Market<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Even when he got back to England he did not forget the bivalves, but once, with a party of American friends in London, he drank the toast, \u201cHere&#8217;s to Boston thought, Baltimore women and New York oysters.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[Editor&#8217;s notes: Judge James I. Roosevelt died in 1875, and the house was razed the next year to make way for commercial buildings, which had taken over the neighborhood. The Mansion was replaced by the Mitchell Vance Co. building, which still stands. James I. Roosevelt was a justice of the New York Supreme Court and grand-uncle of President Theodore Roosevelt&#8211;but this column was written long before Theodore Roosevelt&#8217;s first entry into public service.]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Passin\u2019 along what might be called the middle of<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"nf_dc_page":"","_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[66,43,30],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1343","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-judges","category-landmarks","category-writers-and-editors"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.7 - 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